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What You Think Doesn't Matter
The Truth About Traffic Stops and Your Rights
Can a routine traffic stop be both predictable and mysterious? Join us on "What You Think Doesn't Matter" as we uncover the often misunderstood world of traffic stops. From the moment an officer decides to pull you over to the interactions that follow, we break down every step and explain the critical distinctions between low-risk and high-risk stops. Discover why officers need reasonable suspicion to pull you over and what they look for when deciding to initiate a stop.
Learn the legalities that govern traffic stops, including the protocols that officers must follow and the common misconceptions that many drivers have. Did you know that running your license plate without probable cause is perfectly legal? We’ll also clarify the purpose of "fix-it-or-else" tickets and debunk the myth of ticket quotas while explaining how officers are still accountable for their enforcement activities.
Our deep dive doesn't stop there. We'll guide you through the experience from both the driver’s and the officer’s perspectives, emphasizing the procedures and safety measures that ensure a smooth interaction. Understand your legal obligations during a stop, such as presenting your license, registration, and proof of insurance, and why cooperation is essential. By shining a light on these procedures, we aim to demystify the process and help you navigate traffic stops with confidence and clarity.
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Hello everybody, welcome to an all new episode of what you Think Doesn't Matter. On this episode, I want to talk to you a little bit about what goes on during a normal traffic stop, and when I say by that, I'm going to take you, my listeners, through every step of a quote-unquote routine traffic stop. I'm going to let you know what the officer's thinking, what's going through their mind. I'm going to educate you on the steps that have to be taken, starting at the point when an officer develops a probable cause or reasonable suspicion to affect a traffic stop on you, and I'll let you know some things that they'll do, why they may pick a reason for stopping, which may, to you, as the driver, seem stupid or just out of this world or something made up. I'm going to kind of describe a little bit why officers use those tactics or those reasons to establish probable cause to effect a stop on you. With all that being said, grab your coffee, have a seat, hang on tight. When we come back we'll get started.
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Speaker 1:Before we get into the topic of going through our traffic stop here, I think it's kind of imperative that you guys realize that officers engage in two types of traffic stops. You have the low-risk traffic stop, which is basically they're pulling you over on the highway or the roadway for some type of traffic violation, some type of moving violation. Basically, it's just that You'd had some minor infraction of the driving code and the officer saw that, witnessed it and is pulling you over just to either tell you, hey look, this is what you did and I'll stop it, don't do it again. Or to issue you a ticket. Anyhow, that's what's referred to as a quote-unquote routine traffic stop. It's just something that happens because the officer witnessed a crime and then you have what's called the high-risk stop, otherwise called a felony traffic stop. When that happens, there's going to be more than one police unit or vehicle there making the stop. You're going to have a minimum of two, maybe even three police officer units there affecting this high risk traffic stop or this felony stop, and there are many cases in which this may happen. The vehicle that you're stopping matches the description of a vehicle that was involved in some type of violent offense, somebody, some type of felony crime, like a burglary or robbery or murder, kidnapping, whatever the case may be some type of major offense, and this vehicle matches that description. Okay, you're, there's going to be what's called a high risk stop. All right, um, not which. That means that all these officers are going to get behind you, you're're going to pull you over, they're going to have their weapons drawn and aimed at you and they're going to take certain steps and procedures to pull you and your passengers out of the vehicle in the safest manner possible without, uh, jeopardizing the safety of bystanders.
Speaker 1:Now, what we're going to talk to you today about is just going to be the standard traffic stop, but I wanted to let you know there's a difference between the two and different tactics that are used, between the two difference, and then you have to take into consideration time of day, lighting conditions, daytime, nighttime. There are slightly different tactics used in each scenario, and it's all done for one reason, and one reason only. That is, the ultimate safety of the officer, the vehicle and the passengers in the vehicle and bystanders that are more than likely outside, recording the incident on their cell phones, which that subject alone is a topic that we may or may not talk about later on, but it's important that you understand the differences between the two and what happens between the two and, like I said, what I'm going to talk to you about today is just your standard, low-risk, everyday routine traffic stop. Okay, so now that we understand what the two types of traffic stops are those were two very general traffic stops low risk and high risk I need to talk to you a little bit about why a police officer will pull you over, just like any other situation.
Speaker 1:An officer can just not arbitrarily or randomly stop your vehicle without having a reason. They have to establish reasonable suspicion that something occurred, and in most cases on a routine traffic stop, it is going to be because the officer witnessed some type of traffic infraction or traffic violation. And I'm going to tell you one thing right now Not everybody out there, for the most part, I'm going to tell you one thing right now Not everybody out there, for the most part, completely reads the traffic codes in your local revised statutes rule book. Not everybody knows all of the traffic codes when you take your driver's test or you go to driver safety or whatever. They only cover the most common violations, one common violation that a lot of drivers don't think about, and it's a huge one.
Speaker 1:And unfortunately, it's also something that a lot of officers don't enforce and they use it as one of those excuses to stop a car just to kind of be nosy, so to speak, and that is an obstructed windshield. All right, if you look up the definition in your local area of what is defined as an obstructed windshield, it's basically anything in your windshield that can limit your view, your point of view, such as major cracks in your windshield, believe it or not, having your handicap placard on your rearview mirror. And I'll tell you one thing right now I'm guilty of this myself, but having anything hanging from your rear view mirror can technically be considered an obstruction of view based on the definition of the law and can be a reason to pull you over, because you're technically driving while impaired not physically impaired, but your view is impaired you can't have a, you don't have a clear line of sight of everything going on around you, and just about everybody not everybody, but just about everybody is guilty of this because, with the advance of modern technology and cell phones, everybody has their cell phones on some form of dash mount, which technically is in your view and can be used as a reason to stop you, but because it is becoming more and more commonplace, officers are using discretion to determine, in their opinion, whether or not it is obstructive to the point to hinder the driver's view of the surrounding areas. So that's why I believe that a lot of officers will not pull people over specifically for that reason, because A it's an infraction in most cases and it's not a real big fine. But if, for whatever reason, the officer officer thinks that you're acting funny or there's just something not so warm and fuzzy in his gut that he wants to get in your car about or at least approach you, he may may use that as a reason to stop you as an obstructed windshield. So just kind of keep that in mind.
Speaker 1:So, in addition to an obstructed windshield and the myriad of other issues an officer can find to pull you over, a vehicle must be in a safe operating condition in order for it to be driven on public highways, and that can be used as a reason to pull a vehicle over. It's something obvious, such as no brake lights, no tail lights, no license plate lights, things like that. Those are vehicle safety issues and that affects the safety around you and an officer can use that as a reason to pull you over. And in most cases not all cases, but in most cases if an officer stops you for what's called equipment malfunction or equipment failure is usually what it's called, but language could be different. They will most likely give you what's called a fix-it-or-else ticket or give you a verbal warning to go get it fixed. And a fix-it-or-else ticket is just that you are given usually about 30 days to fix the problem, take proof of its repair to the court and the judge will review it, and then, nine times out of 10, we'll dismiss the ticket without you having to pay court fees or anything like that. The ticket's just tossed out because you've corrected the problem. However, on the flip side of that, if you're given a fix it or else ticket, your court date shows up and you don't go to court and you don't pay the fines, then you're automatically going to be found guilty of the offense and a warrant for your arrest for failure to appear will be issued. And now you've got a whole shitload of problems because you didn't go and fix your turn signal, because it didn't work, or your brake lights or whatever the equipment failure was. And so now it's now the cost of this ticket is going to cost you a shit ton more money than it would have cost you just to fix the problem to begin with. But that's neither here nor there at this point.
Speaker 1:But officers need a reason to stop you. They can't just arbitrarily pull you over just because they don't like the color of your car, which some people may think that. Um, but also, contrary to popular belief, an officer can just randomly run your license plate. They don't need probable cause, they don't need a reason, because your license plate is in public view, it is in public domain. The officer can run that plate to see if it's valid, to see if it's active, to see if it's got insurance or whatever the case may be. That is perfectly legal and the results when it comes back can give the officer a reason to pull you over, such as your registration is expired, which, by the way, is illegal. It is illegal to operate a motor vehicle on a public highway with a expired registration. It's the same as not having a registration at all. Okay, so keep that in mind. Okay, so keep that in mind. Um, you change lanes. Whether you didn't use your turn signal, or the officer, you know, in his opinion or her opinion, determined that your lane, your lane change, was sudden and unsafe, okay, you could be pulled over for that.
Speaker 1:There's a multitude of reasons that an officer can use to pull your vehicle over. Trust, trust me, I can tell you from personal experience. If an officer stays behind a vehicle long enough, the driver of that vehicle will eventually give that officer a reason to pull them over. That's just the way it goes, okay, so now that we understand what the two types of traffic stops are those were two very general traffic stops low risk and high risk I need to talk to you a little bit about why a police officer will pull you over.
Speaker 1:Just like any other situation, an officer can just not arbitrarily or randomly stop your vehicle without having a reason. They have to establish reasonable suspicion that something occurred, and in most cases on a routine traffic stop, it is going to be because the officer witnessed some type of traffic infraction or traffic violation. And I'm going to tell you one thing right now not everybody out there, for the most part, completely reads the traffic codes in your local revised statutes rule book. Okay, not everybody knows all of the traffic codes, and when you take your driver's test or you go to driver safety or whatever, they only cover the most common violations. But you got to take into consideration too that a vehicle must be in a safe operating condition in order for it to be driven on public highways, and that can be used as a reason to pull a vehicle over. It's something obvious, such as no brake lights, no tail lights, no license plate lights, things like that. Those are vehicle safety issues and that affects the safety around you and an officer can use that as a reason to pull you over.
Speaker 1:And in most cases not all cases, but in most cases if an officer stops you for what's called equipment malfunction or equipment failure is usually what it's called, but language could be different they will most likely give you what's called a fix-it-or-else ticket or give you a verbal warning to get it fixed. And a fix-it-or or else ticket is just that you are given usually about 30 days to fix the problem, take proof of its repair to the court and the judge will review it and then, nine times out of ten, we'll dismiss the ticket Without you having to pay court fees or anything like that. The ticket's just tossed out because you've corrected the problem. However, on the flip side of that, if you're given a fix it or else ticket, your court date shows up and you don't go to court and you don't pay the fines, then you're automatically going to be found guilty of the offense and a warrant for your arrest for failure to appear will be issued. And now you've got a whole shitload of problems because you didn't go and fix your turn signal, because it didn't work, or your brake lights or whatever the the equipment failure was. And so now it's now the cost of this ticket is going to cost you a shit ton more money than it would have cost you just to fix the problem to begin with. But that's neither here nor there at this point.
Speaker 1:But officers need a reason to stop you. They can't just arbitrarily pull you over just because they don't like the color of your car, which some people may think that. But also, contrary to popular belief, an officer can just randomly run your license plate. They don't need probable cause, they don't need a reason Because your license plate is in public view, it is in public domain. The officer can run that plate to see if it's valid, to see if it's active, to see if it's got insurance or whatever the case may be. That is perfectly legal and the results when it comes back can give the officer a reason to pull you over, such as your registration is expired, which, by the way, is illegal. It is illegal to operate a motor vehicle on a public highway with an expired registration. It's the same as not having a registration at all.
Speaker 1:Okay, so keep that in mind. You change lanes whether you didn't use your turn signal, or the officer you know, in his opinion or her opinion, determined that your lane change was sudden and unsafe. Okay, you could be pulled over for that. There's a multitude of reasons that an officer can use to pull your vehicle over. Trust me, I can tell you from personal experience. If an officer stays behind a vehicle long enough, the driver of that vehicle will eventually give that officer a reason to pull them over. That's just the way it goes.
Speaker 1:And another thing also when it comes to traffic violations, contrary to popular belief and I know there are still a lot of people out there that believe this there is no such thing as a quota Quotas have been determined illegal and have not been in effect for many, many years now. However, with that being said, officers that are assigned to a traffic division, whether it's highway patrol, your local law enforcement agency, whatever the case may be if you are a traffic unit, your sole purpose is to enforce traffic laws to ensure the safety of the vehicles on your public roads or highways. If you are assigned to traffic and you're only issuing one ticket a month, that's a problem. That means that officer is not doing their job. And if he does not have the dispatch records to show that he's been busy or didn't have time to engage in his job, such as enforcing traffic laws, then that officer is going to be punished for what you know. Then that officer is going to be punished for what you know, in whatever way is that department's policy. So, and the same thing with patrol officers, officers who are doing random patrol or routine patrol in the jurisdiction. Not only are they doing patrol in their neighborhood, but their job is to also enforce traffic regulations in their assigned beat. If they are having a quiet night on shift, they're not getting too many calls for service and they don't have a lot of paperwork, then their secondary function is to be out there monitoring traffic, whether it's sitting at an intersection that is commonly known for red light runners, or at a common four-way stop where people have a tendency to continue running stop signs, or a small stretch of road that is known for speeders. If the officer is not busy and he's not tied down with other priorities. They are expected to be out enforcing traffic, and if that officer is not issuing citations or warnings or is not logging traffic stops, that officer is going to be questioned as to what the hell they're doing. Where are they getting paid for? And so, again, with that being said, I can't stress enough that quotas do not exist. However, there isn't expectations that an officer needs to be doing their job, and that is rated through the number of tickets or citations or contacts the officer has between calls for service. Okay, let's go ahead and take a quick break right here, and when we come back we will continue the discussion on routine traffic stops.
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Speaker 1:Okay, so where were we? Oh yeah, traffic stops. So imagine if you will. You're tooling along down the roadway. You're in your own little world. You're just jamming out to the radio, not really paying attention to what's going on around you, but more so just what's in front of you, not really paying attention at all. You're just into the moment. You don't see the red and blue lights flashing in your rearview mirror behind you, because it's bright as hell outside. You've got your sunglasses on and then all of a sudden you hear that whelp. That startles you back into reality and you look around. You look in your rearview mirror and there's the officer right behind you, right in your ass, flashing his lights at you. You automatically you look down to see what you're doing wrong. You check your speedometer. You're only going a few miles over, nothing to really worry about. But you know you're not. You're not driving like crazy that you're. So that you know. So you whip on your turn signal, you merge over into the shoulder and you make sure you're out of the way and the officer pulls in behind you, over into the shoulder and you make sure you're out of the way and the officer pulls in behind you. Well, welcome to the wonderful world of traffic enforcement. You are going to get a firsthand experience on hopefully getting away with a warning or you may end up having to get a ticket, depending on what the case was.
Speaker 1:So let's kind of go back a little bit. Let's rewind. As an officer, you're sitting along the side of the road, you're just monitoring traffic, you're just kind of pacing, you're not really using radar, you're just kind of just driving and you, just, as an officer, you just cruise around from lane to lane, looking at cars to cars. You're just running random license plates which, by the way, is perfectly legal, you don't need probable cause or reason to run a plate and then you're following this one vehicle nonchalantly, not really paying attention. But then you notice the person slows down, but there's no brake lights. Hmm, okay, you already ran the plate. The plate has come back clear. So, the officer, you light that car up. You're going to pull them over. So the officer pulls you over the officer.
Speaker 1:At this moment in time, like I just said, he's already ran your plate. Your plate comes back clear, valid, no wants or warrants, at least to the registered owner anyway. But as a police officer I don't know if the person operating that vehicle is the registered owner of the vehicle or if it's somebody else. I don't know if that person just committed a crime that hasn't been reported yet, else I don't know if that person just committed a crime that hasn't been reported yet. I know absolutely nothing about the person behind the wheel other than what the computer tells me. I should expect, but not necessarily. All that information tells me is who owns the car. That's all it tells me. And in some states, some jurisdictions, it'll tell me whether or not your insurance is valid. All right, let's just go ahead and assume it is, according to the data readout on the computer. Okay, but that just means that the computer or the system may be out of date. Your registration or, excuse me, your insurance may have just lapsed the night before and the insurance company hasn't had a chance to report it to the DMV yet. That all makes sense.
Speaker 1:So the officer is going to treat this stop like any other stop as of right now, from the time he lights you up to the time he pulls you over and you get stopped. There's no red flag, so to speak, to put that officer on what is referred to as alert status. Although they're always cautious, they're not really in a high level of alertness, so to speak, at this moment. They're in what's called a mid-range or a low-grade yellow zone, which means they're paying attention, but there's no red flag threat that has appeared as of yet. So, while the officer's getting ready to step out of the vehicle, he's watching the inside of the vehicle. He's watching you, the driver, through the back windshield or, excuse me, through the back window. You're by yourself. He doesn't see any other passengers in the vehicle that he could see in plain of sight. So he's assuming at this point in time he's that you are by yourself and he's going to be dealing with you one-on-one.
Speaker 1:Notifies the dispatcher via radio saying where you're at the vehicle, you've got pulled over, the license plate number, all that is being recorded. He's going to tell the dispatcher how many occupants are in the vehicle, and so on and so forth, just so that's all on record. So, if anything happens, they've got a description of the vehicle, they've got a description of the driver or at the very least they've got an identity on the registered owner of the vehicle. And up to that point the vehicle has not been reported stolen yet, if in fact is stolen, because it just happened a few minutes ago, so the officer doesn't know that. So all of this is going through the officer's mind while he's doing a standardized check.
Speaker 1:He's looking at the vehicle as he approaches the vehicle, as he's getting out of his car. He's keeping an eye on the driver and the occupants of the vehicle, while at the same time watching the traffic going on around him, because if he's on on the side of the highway, he's got all that oncoming traffic he's got to worry about. He's got to make sure that you're pulled over to the far enough to the side of the road so that it's not a safety issue. He's got to make sure that there's a barricade between you and traffic, which is usually going to be the his vehicle behind him, which is why he parks in a certain style when he pulls up behind you. That's kind of why the front end of the vehicle kind of sticks out from traffic a little bit, because it'll give you that little cone of safety, as what it's referred to. That's the area in which the officer and you, the driver, are going to be in in case a vehicle tries to veer off to the right and come toward you. Does it always work? No, but it's kind of a. I always refer to it as a false sense of security, but that's why they do that. It gives you a little bit of work area, so to speak.
Speaker 1:All right, so while the officer's approaching your side, whether it be the right side or the passenger side I was always on a passenger side officer. I always approached from that, because that created a bigger barrier between myself and the vehicle traffic on the highway. It was a safety issue, plus a lot of other tactical reasons on why I would approach from the passenger side, especially if there were multiple persons in the vehicle. So the officer is going to approach you from the passenger side. While he's going in, he's going to look inside your vehicle, which is perfectly legal in plain view doctrine, which means any evidence or contraband that is visible from the street into the windows, is considered admissible in court because it's plain view doctrine. The officer could see it and identify it without having to actually get into the vehicle to manipulate it to identify the subject, he can tell you. Like right example, you see a white powdery substance in a brick on the floorboard behind the passenger seat. That, right there, is going to give the officer probable cause to pull you out of your vehicle and then search your vehicle for drugs or possibly even get a canine out there to help search it.
Speaker 1:But that's neither here nor there. So the officer approaches your vehicle from the right side, does not see anything in the vehicle to immediately alert him or her, the officer I'm going to refer to the officer as a ham for general purposes, I'm not being gender specific. So the officer pulls up and as he's approaching you, he looks in the vehicle, doesn't see anything out of the ordinary, asks you, he identifies himself and one of the questions that he's going to ask you right off the top is do you know why I pulled you over? My response to you for that, or my advice to you for that, is to not answer that question. Or if you do feel the urge to answer that question, you say no, and here's why the question of do you know why I pulled you over is a psychologically based and created question with the sole intent to elicit an incriminating statement from you.
Speaker 1:Okay, so officer asks you do you know why I pulled you over? And you come and say, yeah, I was speeding. Well, you just admitted guilt and you're going to probably, more than likely, get a ticket for that. Or, if the officer goes, do you know how fast you were going? Again, yeah, I was doing like 75 and a 65. Okay, well, you admitted to speeding, doing like 75 and a 65. Okay, well, you admitted to speeding because, by definition of the law, one mile per hour or more over the posted speed limit is speeding. So my advice to you, if you feel the urge to answer any questions by a police officer, even though you're not legally obligated to, is to answer no to that question.
Speaker 1:No, officer, I do not know why you pulled me over and at that point in time, the officer may feel obligated to tell you why he stopped you. Not all jurisdictions require the officer explain to you why they stopped you. Some, but then some departments require it. Okay, it just depends on your local jurisdiction, but a professional police officer will tell you why they stopped you, especially if it was for a legitimate reason. Officer, I'm Officer ma'am sir. I'm Officer Joe Schmoe, with local Anytown USA Police Department. The reason I stopped you was you have no brake lights. That's why I pulled you over.
Speaker 1:Now, do you have your license, your registration and your proof of insurance for me, please? Those are all standard questions and at this point in time, if you have your documentation, you will present it to the officer. And yes, believe it or not, as long as the officer has a legal and justifiable reason for stopping you, you are required by law to present that officer with your driver's license period. The only time you do not have to present that driver's license is if the stop was unlawful. It says so on your driver's license, and this is the word you think doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:Part comes in.
Speaker 1:What you think you did or did not do is irrelevant, because the officer is making a statement under legal authority to detain you for a reasonable amount of time to conduct a traffic investigation. So if you are being pulled over, you are being legally detained for the investigation of a traffic violation and therefore, under definition of the law, you are required to identify yourself. Legally detained for the investigation of a traffic violation and therefore, under definition of the law, you are required to identify yourself. Your passengers, on the other hand, are not. Unless the officer can articulate that your passengers had any direct involvement whatsoever with the offense that you are being pulled over for, those passengers are not required to identify themselves.
Speaker 1:Okay, with all that being said, we are about out of time, so tune in next time as we continue the conversation and finish up our discussion about routine traffic stops and my attempt to hopefully get everybody to better understand the things that a cop is thinking and the steps they have to go through to ensure not only his own safety but the safety of you and everybody else going on around you, especially with the event of everybody and their mother wanting to record the cops on their cell phones and hopefully get the next million dollar YouTube video. So, until then, be good, be safe and always remember what you think doesn't matter.